Share this postIt's the Hope That Kills Youthesecretpodcast.thebulwark.comCopy linkTwitterFacebookEmailFeb 18 • 1HR 2MIt's the Hope That Kills YouMaking American politics better.Jonathan V. Last, Sarah Longwell, and Theodore R. JohnsonFeb 1844Share this postIt's the Hope That Kills Youthesecretpodcast.thebulwark.comCopy linkTwitterFacebookEmail 1.0×0:00-1:02:25Open in playerListen on);Substack AppGet a private RSS link for listeningSubscribe to The Secret Podcast to get a private link for listening in your favorite podcast player. Learn about RSS.JoinAudio playback is not supported on your browser. Please upgrade.A private podcast, just for our supporters.JoinSarah and JVL are joined by two very special guests. Like this postShare this postIt's the Hope That Kills Youthesecretpodcast.thebulwark.comCopy linkTwitterFacebookEmailA guest post byTheodore R. JohnsonTheodore (Ted) R. Johnson is the director of the Fellows Program at the Brennan Center for Justice and a writer for The Bulwark. He is also a retired commander in the U.S. Navy and the author of When the Stars Begin to Fall (Grove Atlantic, 2021).