Feb 18 • 1HR 2M

It's the Hope That Kills You

Making American politics better.

Jonathan V. Last
,
Sarah Longwell
, and
Theodore R. Johnson
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Sarah and JVL are joined by two very special guests.

A guest post by
Theodore R. Johnson
Theodore (Ted) R. Johnson is the director of the Fellows Program at the Brennan Center for Justice and a writer for The Bulwark. He is also a retired commander in the U.S. Navy and the author of When the Stars Begin to Fall (Grove Atlantic, 2021).